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	<title>Comments on: Panorama looks at unlawful filesharing</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52781</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John

&lt;i&gt;I don’t quite understand how anyone can detect file sharing as such&lt;/i&gt;

The concern is specifically about peer-to-peer file sharing, with very large numbers of participants (BIt Torrent, Gnutella &amp;c). Point-to-point transfers (called &quot;cyber lockers&quot; in the current jargon of the policy wonks) are seen as a longer term threat -- though they seem to be imagined to be fixed locations when counter-measures are discussed, which is unrealistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John</p>
<p><i>I don’t quite understand how anyone can detect file sharing as such</i></p>
<p>The concern is specifically about peer-to-peer file sharing, with very large numbers of participants (BIt Torrent, Gnutella &#038;c). Point-to-point transfers (called &#8220;cyber lockers&#8221; in the current jargon of the policy wonks) are seen as a longer term threat &#8212; though they seem to be imagined to be fixed locations when counter-measures are discussed, which is unrealistic.</p>
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		<title>By: John Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52749</link>
		<dc:creator>John Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification but I don&#039;t quite understand how anyone can detect file sharing as such. How does any ISP detect I&#039;ve downloaded a music file from you as opposed to your holiday snaps of Tierra del Fuego? Especially when in addition to encrypting it with my PGP key I&#039;ve downloaded it from your FTP directory for which I had to quote the right password?

Please note I use Linux all the time maybe MS stuff is all different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification but I don&#8217;t quite understand how anyone can detect file sharing as such. How does any ISP detect I&#8217;ve downloaded a music file from you as opposed to your holiday snaps of Tierra del Fuego? Especially when in addition to encrypting it with my PGP key I&#8217;ve downloaded it from your FTP directory for which I had to quote the right password?</p>
<p>Please note I use Linux all the time maybe MS stuff is all different.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52635</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John

&lt;i&gt;It also seemed to me to leave open the question of why not block out the sites from which you can illegally download&lt;/i&gt;

The actual downloading (in peer-to-peer systems) is done from peers, ie from a random set of millions of other end-users. Blocking these is not practicable.

If you mean, why not block the rendezvous points (the trackers, or the indexing sites such as The Pirate Bay). This doesn&#039;t work because they&#039;ll move around faster than you can block them; or protocols that don&#039;t have single-points-of-failure will come (back) into the mainstream, and once again blocking will be too difficult to contemplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John</p>
<p><i>It also seemed to me to leave open the question of why not block out the sites from which you can illegally download</i></p>
<p>The actual downloading (in peer-to-peer systems) is done from peers, ie from a random set of millions of other end-users. Blocking these is not practicable.</p>
<p>If you mean, why not block the rendezvous points (the trackers, or the indexing sites such as The Pirate Bay). This doesn&#8217;t work because they&#8217;ll move around faster than you can block them; or protocols that don&#8217;t have single-points-of-failure will come (back) into the mainstream, and once again blocking will be too difficult to contemplate.</p>
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		<title>By: John Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52632</link>
		<dc:creator>John Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the programme blurred the distinction between illegal file-sharing and illegal downloading.

It also seemed to me to leave open the question of why not block out the sites from which you can illegalyl download rather than going after individual punters - a bit like trying to control drugs by concentrating on the users.

And when they had that Stephen Timms who made such a hash 0f anti-spam measures a few years ago we knew we were in for a total cockup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the programme blurred the distinction between illegal file-sharing and illegal downloading.</p>
<p>It also seemed to me to leave open the question of why not block out the sites from which you can illegalyl download rather than going after individual punters &#8211; a bit like trying to control drugs by concentrating on the users.</p>
<p>And when they had that Stephen Timms who made such a hash 0f anti-spam measures a few years ago we knew we were in for a total cockup.</p>
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		<title>By: Alb</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52187</link>
		<dc:creator>Alb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for including the Youtube links. I hope that the BBC will open their playback for 3rd-party applications again and also for access from other countries like where I am. (Just over the channel, actually.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for including the Youtube links. I hope that the BBC will open their playback for 3rd-party applications again and also for access from other countries like where I am. (Just over the channel, actually.)</p>
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		<title>By: Universal</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52175</link>
		<dc:creator>Universal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andy lol

their wifi expert were idiots too rolf that guy had no idea at all. (not you guys of course)

i still don&#039;t understand all the ossification the bbc has on such topics.

more importantly where were the ppuk.

overall the program was heavily biased with the usually reports who don&#039;t have a bloody clue. mind you the bbc still haven&#039;t apolgised to Alan Elise for slanderous lies.

do screen shots count as evidence no web logs web history or cached torrent files ?

(apparently by employing a default password on their broadband router to authorise themselves to have access).

i am dubious about this too i bet the  guy did nothing i mean he&#039;s using windows after all.

cool hair btw zztop style (well all you need is a bigger beard) 

were all the media they download audio media seemed a bit big most were in their GiB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andy lol</p>
<p>their wifi expert were idiots too rolf that guy had no idea at all. (not you guys of course)</p>
<p>i still don&#8217;t understand all the ossification the bbc has on such topics.</p>
<p>more importantly where were the ppuk.</p>
<p>overall the program was heavily biased with the usually reports who don&#8217;t have a bloody clue. mind you the bbc still haven&#8217;t apolgised to Alan Elise for slanderous lies.</p>
<p>do screen shots count as evidence no web logs web history or cached torrent files ?</p>
<p>(apparently by employing a default password on their broadband router to authorise themselves to have access).</p>
<p>i am dubious about this too i bet the  guy did nothing i mean he&#8217;s using windows after all.</p>
<p>cool hair btw zztop style (well all you need is a bigger beard) </p>
<p>were all the media they download audio media seemed a bit big most were in their GiB.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Mabbett</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/03/16/panorama-looks-at-unlawful-filesharing/comment-page-1/#comment-52157</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Mabbett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With delicious irony; the programme is also available as a torrent. No geographic restriction, no 7-day time-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With delicious irony; the programme is also available as a torrent. No geographic restriction, no 7-day time-out.</p>
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