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	<title>Comments on: Distance bounding against smartcard relay attacks</title>
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	<description>Security Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven J. Murdoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven J. Murdoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 16:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ross

There does seem to be a mix. All of my cards are embossed, but one German Maestro card I've seen is not. I also remember one non-embossed card a colleague received from a UK bank, but I can't remember which.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ross</p>
<p>There does seem to be a mix. All of my cards are embossed, but one German Maestro card I&#8217;ve seen is not. I also remember one non-embossed card a colleague received from a UK bank, but I can&#8217;t remember which.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Early</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Early</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross Younger,

"Electron" cards, which may not be used at all with manual imprint machines, have never been embossed.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Electron&#8221; cards, which may not be used at all with manual imprint machines, have never been embossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Younger</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2007/05/21/distance-bounding-against-smartcard-relay-attacks/#comment-22117</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Younger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write in the paper that payment cards are starting to be issued without embossing. It's not clear how widespread this is, as yet; I recently received new C+P cards, from two different UK banks, which are embossed like their predecessors were. Perhaps it'll be a different story when they next expire. Not all merchants have converted, either; one of my cards was "zip-zapped" by a taxi driver in Brussels earlier this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write in the paper that payment cards are starting to be issued without embossing. It&#8217;s not clear how widespread this is, as yet; I recently received new C+P cards, from two different UK banks, which are embossed like their predecessors were. Perhaps it&#8217;ll be a different story when they next expire. Not all merchants have converted, either; one of my cards was &#8220;zip-zapped&#8221; by a taxi driver in Brussels earlier this year.</p>
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