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	<description>Security Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jenny Mann</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-22210</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Around £1,000 in small amounts from ten different Indian ATMs (20 thousand Indian rupees, for example) has been fraudulently taken from my Abbey bank account shortly after I used my debit card at Shell Fairmile in Esher Surrey and at BP Pippbrook in Dorking.The card has not been out of my possession at any time. I have reported the incident to Surrey police and to the local newspaper Esher News and Mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around £1,000 in small amounts from ten different Indian ATMs (20 thousand Indian rupees, for example) has been fraudulently taken from my Abbey bank account shortly after I used my debit card at Shell Fairmile in Esher Surrey and at BP Pippbrook in Dorking.The card has not been out of my possession at any time. I have reported the incident to Surrey police and to the local newspaper Esher News and Mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Light Blue Touchpaper &#187; Chip &#38; PIN terminal playing Tetris</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-10401</link>
		<dc:creator>Light Blue Touchpaper &#187; Chip &#38; PIN terminal playing Tetris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many discussions over the security of Chip &#38; PIN have focused on the tamper-resistance of terminals (for example in the aftermath of the Shell Chip &#38; PIN fraud). It is important to remember, however, that even perfect tamper resistance only ensures that the terminal will no longer be able to communicate with the bank once opened. It does not prevent anyone from replacing most of the terminal&#8217;s hardware and presenting it to customers as legitimate, so freely collecting card details and PINs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many discussions over the security of Chip &#38; PIN have focused on the tamper-resistance of terminals (for example in the aftermath of the Shell Chip &#38; PIN fraud). It is important to remember, however, that even perfect tamper resistance only ensures that the terminal will no longer be able to communicate with the bank once opened. It does not prevent anyone from replacing most of the terminal&#8217;s hardware and presenting it to customers as legitimate, so freely collecting card details and PINs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BUSLab&#8217;s Swordfish &#187; Bankovní bezpečnost na Light Blue Touch Paper</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>BUSLab&#8217;s Swordfish &#187; Bankovní bezpečnost na Light Blue Touch Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The mythical tamper-proof PIN pad? – popisuje proč společnost Shell přestala na svých čerpacích stanicích používat kreditní karty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The mythical tamper-proof PIN pad? – popisuje proč společnost Shell přestala na svých čerpacích stanicích používat kreditní karty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Light Blue Touchpaper &#187; Chip and skim 2</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Light Blue Touchpaper &#187; Chip and skim 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The fact that the chip also includes the magstripe details is not strictly necessary, since a skimmer could also read this, but the design of some Chip and PIN terminals, which only cover the chip, make this difficult. One of the complaints against the terminals used in the Shell fraud was that they make it impossible to read the chip without reading the magstripe too. This led to suggestions that customers should not use such terminals, or even that they wipe their card&#8217;s magstripe to prevent skimmers from reading it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The fact that the chip also includes the magstripe details is not strictly necessary, since a skimmer could also read this, but the design of some Chip and PIN terminals, which only cover the chip, make this difficult. One of the complaints against the terminals used in the Shell fraud was that they make it impossible to read the chip without reading the magstripe too. This led to suggestions that customers should not use such terminals, or even that they wipe their card&#8217;s magstripe to prevent skimmers from reading it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know if the terminals used in Ireland are similarly vulnerable?  The Trintech PR at
http://www.trintech.com/NAE213122241451005836515NDBQ03NOV04A.html
notes that Shell stations here were to use the PINPad 5000 devices, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know if the terminals used in Ireland are similarly vulnerable?  The Trintech PR at<br />
<a href="http://www.trintech.com/NAE213122241451005836515NDBQ03NOV04A.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.trintech.com/NAE213122241451005836515NDBQ03NOV04A.html</a><br />
notes that Shell stations here were to use the PINPad 5000 devices, too.</p>
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		<title>By: JoBloggs</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>JoBloggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest a simple hardware hack was used.

Pin-pads usaully are protected in quite sophisticated  ways:

1) A simple microswitch on the back cover to detect case entry.

2) The internal electronics are often potted with a highly volatile metallic mesh. as soon as the potting is compromised the mesh fails (like a fuse) and an internal interrupt clears any stored keys etc in the flash. Once cleared the hardware itself if fairly useless. Sometimes a processor module with internal databuses and internal flash is used, giving similar protection to the potting idea

3) A Temerature sensor prevents freezing of the flash (very cold temperatures will prevent the flash being wiped). Once the pin-pad detects a low enough voltage it will erase the stored keys before the temperature drops too low.

4) DPA (differential power analysis) resistant software.

Once the pin-pad case is opened (easy enough, with a sample or two you can find where the case-opening micro-switch is),   
you can then sit a simple microcontroller on  the key-pad array (can be figured out from a visual inspection) and scan any mag card swipe (a doddle with the hybrid dip/swipe reader, no need for a seperate skimmer).

The data stored will then be a sequence of card swipe data followed by a sequence of key presses, repeated for every card used. The added circuitry could include a simple bluetooth chip to allow collection of harvested data by just walking into a location.

No need to compromise the software on the pin-pads, no need to piggyback on the terminal comms etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest a simple hardware hack was used.</p>
<p>Pin-pads usaully are protected in quite sophisticated  ways:</p>
<p>1) A simple microswitch on the back cover to detect case entry.</p>
<p>2) The internal electronics are often potted with a highly volatile metallic mesh. as soon as the potting is compromised the mesh fails (like a fuse) and an internal interrupt clears any stored keys etc in the flash. Once cleared the hardware itself if fairly useless. Sometimes a processor module with internal databuses and internal flash is used, giving similar protection to the potting idea</p>
<p>3) A Temerature sensor prevents freezing of the flash (very cold temperatures will prevent the flash being wiped). Once the pin-pad detects a low enough voltage it will erase the stored keys before the temperature drops too low.</p>
<p>4) DPA (differential power analysis) resistant software.</p>
<p>Once the pin-pad case is opened (easy enough, with a sample or two you can find where the case-opening micro-switch is),<br />
you can then sit a simple microcontroller on  the key-pad array (can be figured out from a visual inspection) and scan any mag card swipe (a doddle with the hybrid dip/swipe reader, no need for a seperate skimmer).</p>
<p>The data stored will then be a sequence of card swipe data followed by a sequence of key presses, repeated for every card used. The added circuitry could include a simple bluetooth chip to allow collection of harvested data by just walking into a location.</p>
<p>No need to compromise the software on the pin-pads, no need to piggyback on the terminal comms etc.</p>
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		<title>By: cough</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>cough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 12:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did anyone think about ip traffic monitoring, a laptop with ethreal!!

unencrypted traffic sent over suposedly "secured" network?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did anyone think about ip traffic monitoring, a laptop with ethreal!!</p>
<p>unencrypted traffic sent over suposedly &#8220;secured&#8221; network?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could just be sloppy wording, but it's interesting that the Inquirer article states that (emphasis mine):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Once the units &lt;strong&gt;begin&lt;/strong&gt; collecting card details these are sent abroad and used to withdraw cash.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Smart 5000 PIN pads have Ethernet ports and an IP stack, so it's possible the the crooks actually leaked the card details over Shell's own network. It's also possible that they fitted a separate wireless communication device within the PIN pads &#150; it would be interesting to know whether there's enough dead space inside for a GSM terminal.

If these techniques are ruled out, the 'engineers' might have returned at a later date to remove the log of customers' card details, but this isn't entirely consistent with the wording of the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could just be sloppy wording, but it&#8217;s interesting that the Inquirer article states that (emphasis mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>Once the units <strong>begin</strong> collecting card details these are sent abroad and used to withdraw cash.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Smart 5000 PIN pads have Ethernet ports and an IP stack, so it&#8217;s possible the the crooks actually leaked the card details over Shell&#8217;s own network. It&#8217;s also possible that they fitted a separate wireless communication device within the PIN pads &#8211; it would be interesting to know whether there&#8217;s enough dead space inside for a GSM terminal.</p>
<p>If these techniques are ruled out, the &#8216;engineers&#8217; might have returned at a later date to remove the log of customers&#8217; card details, but this isn&#8217;t entirely consistent with the wording of the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 13:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Inquirer has been talking with an insider to determine the mechanism used:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31547

&lt;i&gt;
According to our source, a team of shysters has been turning up at petrol stations posing as engineers and taking the Trintech Smart5000 Chip and Pin units away for repair. They have then bypassed the anti-tamper mechanisms and inserted their own card skimmer.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The hoods then return the unit, again posing as an engineer. Once the units begin collecting card details these are sent abroad and used to withdraw cash. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;And our source warns the fraud could take place at any site, with any Chip and Pin terminal and trusting staff. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;It is impossible for members of the public to distinguish a doctored unit from a standard chip and pin card reader, as the skimmer is inserted inside the unit, unlike with cashpoint card skimmers. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;To get around the anti-tamper mechanisms, the fraudsters might have had access to a reset program that would allow them to reset the alarm or they were able to engineer their way round it by using different parts from previous versions of the Smart5000 unit. "Either way," said our mole, "they were very clever." &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Inquirer has been talking with an insider to determine the mechanism used:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31547" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31547</a></p>
<p><i><br />
According to our source, a team of shysters has been turning up at petrol stations posing as engineers and taking the Trintech Smart5000 Chip and Pin units away for repair. They have then bypassed the anti-tamper mechanisms and inserted their own card skimmer.</i></p>
<p><i>The hoods then return the unit, again posing as an engineer. Once the units begin collecting card details these are sent abroad and used to withdraw cash. </i></p>
<p><i>And our source warns the fraud could take place at any site, with any Chip and Pin terminal and trusting staff. </i></p>
<p><i>It is impossible for members of the public to distinguish a doctored unit from a standard chip and pin card reader, as the skimmer is inserted inside the unit, unlike with cashpoint card skimmers. </i></p>
<p><i>To get around the anti-tamper mechanisms, the fraudsters might have had access to a reset program that would allow them to reset the alarm or they were able to engineer their way round it by using different parts from previous versions of the Smart5000 unit. &#8220;Either way,&#8221; said our mole, &#8220;they were very clever.&#8221; </i></p>
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		<title>By: Batman</title>
		<link>http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/05/10/the-mythical-tamper-proof-pin-pad/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this, interestingly, highlights what is already known about PIN interception /relay attacks. These cases also highlight as Richard C quite rightly states, the banks apparent lack of concern, as the problem is legally and financially mitigated, even though the technical mitigation has either been compromised or bypassed. So to what extent are APACS/VISA/Merchant et al accountable to the public, to protect our finances? They have done all that is reasonable, and haven't voluntarily created weak security systems. This kind of attack just happens, all the time, but not always to this scale and not always this public.

Tut tut and all that, but hey, everyone reads R Anderson security engineering book and the papers from your labs, and we all should know how difficult the practicallity of securiing things is. When not if the true deails are disclosed, it will be interesting to see how legistlation changes to protect the consumer, and whehter APACS are completely lacking in any form of impartiality in terms of governance...silly of me to say that of course, APACS is a concortium of the banks own interest is it not?...

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this, interestingly, highlights what is already known about PIN interception /relay attacks. These cases also highlight as Richard C quite rightly states, the banks apparent lack of concern, as the problem is legally and financially mitigated, even though the technical mitigation has either been compromised or bypassed. So to what extent are APACS/VISA/Merchant et al accountable to the public, to protect our finances? They have done all that is reasonable, and haven&#8217;t voluntarily created weak security systems. This kind of attack just happens, all the time, but not always to this scale and not always this public.</p>
<p>Tut tut and all that, but hey, everyone reads R Anderson security engineering book and the papers from your labs, and we all should know how difficult the practicallity of securiing things is. When not if the true deails are disclosed, it will be interesting to see how legistlation changes to protect the consumer, and whehter APACS are completely lacking in any form of impartiality in terms of governance&#8230;silly of me to say that of course, APACS is a concortium of the banks own interest is it not?&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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