Comments on: Mysterious and Menacing http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/ Security Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:08:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Light Blue Touchpaper » SOCA: we just want your money? http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-15362 Light Blue Touchpaper » SOCA: we just want your money? Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:56:12 +0000 http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-15362 [...] Agency (SOCA), reporting that their aim in tackling “level 3″ crime was to be “mysterious and menacing“. I pointed out how they were going to be absorbing the National High Tech Crime Unit (NHTCU) [...] [...] Agency (SOCA), reporting that their aim in tackling “level 3″ crime was to be “mysterious and menacing“. I pointed out how they were going to be absorbing the National High Tech Crime Unit (NHTCU) [...]

]]> By: Light Blue Touchpaper » Mainstreaming eCrime http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-2589 Light Blue Touchpaper » Mainstreaming eCrime Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:13:30 +0000 http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-2589 [...] Back in February I wrote about how the establishment of the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) was likely to lead to situation in which “level 2″ eCrime could end up failing to be investigated. “Level 1″ crime is “local” to a single police force, “level 3″ crime is “serious” or “organised” and requires tackling at a national or international level — and “level 2″ crime is what’s in-between: occurring across the borders of local police forces, but not serious or organised enough to be SOCA’s problem. [...] [...] Back in February I wrote about how the establishment of the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) was likely to lead to situation in which “level 2″ eCrime could end up failing to be investigated. “Level 1″ crime is “local” to a single police force, “level 3″ crime is “serious” or “organised” and requires tackling at a national or international level — and “level 2″ crime is what’s in-between: occurring across the borders of local police forces, but not serious or organised enough to be SOCA’s problem. [...]

]]> By: Experts: ‘British FBI’ won’t stop e-crime http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-167 Experts: ‘British FBI’ won’t stop e-crime Tue, 04 Apr 2006 02:16:37 +0000 http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-167 [...] “Déjà vu!” said Anderson in a comment on Clayton’s blog posting on the subject. “I can recall trying to report a bank fraud about 15 years ago, and being told by the Detective Constable that it was too complicated for their local force — but as the sum that had been pinched was less than £100m, the Serious Fraud Office would not be interested in it either.” [...] [...] “Déjà vu!” said Anderson in a comment on Clayton’s blog posting on the subject. “I can recall trying to report a bank fraud about 15 years ago, and being told by the Detective Constable that it was too complicated for their local force — but as the sum that had been pinched was less than £100m, the Serious Fraud Office would not be interested in it either.” [...]

]]> By: Watching Them, Watching Us http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-165 Watching Them, Watching Us Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:21:39 +0000 http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-165 "However, in their new role they’ve decided to leave all this behind. So there will be no more NHTCU officers as speakers on panels at conferences, no more cuddly interviews in The Times. Their watchwords, they tell me privately, for the new style are “mysterious and menacingâ€." How does hiding from the public, by shutting down the <a href="http://www.nhtcu.org" rel="nofollow">www.nhtcu.org</a> website, including no more access to documents which were useful to businesses such as the Confidentiality Charter or the advice on how to forensically preserve computer evidence so that it could be used in court, help to fight Computer Crime ? The new <a href="http://www.soca.gov.uk" rel="nofollow">SOCA website</a> does not have any published telephone or email contact details for the public either - do they not want any tip offs from the public ? Coupled with the <a href="http://www.spy.org.uk/spyblog/2006/03/liberty_central_influences_the.html" rel="nofollow">ludicrously ineffective amendments to the Computer Misuse Act through the Police and Justice Bill</a>, it seems that the priority given to Computer Crime has now been reduced to a very low level by this Government. “However, in their new role they’ve decided to leave all this behind. So there will be no more NHTCU officers as speakers on panels at conferences, no more cuddly interviews in The Times. Their watchwords, they tell me privately, for the new style are “mysterious and menacingâ€.”

How does hiding from the public, by shutting down the http://www.nhtcu.org website, including no more access to documents which were useful to businesses such as the Confidentiality Charter or the advice on how to forensically preserve computer evidence so that it could be used in court, help to fight Computer Crime ?

The new SOCA website does not have any published telephone or email contact details for the public either - do they not want any tip offs from the public ?

Coupled with the ludicrously ineffective amendments to the Computer Misuse Act through the Police and Justice Bill, it seems that the priority given to Computer Crime has now been reduced to a very low level by this Government.

]]> By: Ross http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-59 Ross Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:05:28 +0000 http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/02/06/mysterious-and-menacing/#comment-59 Deva vu all over again! I can recall trying to report a bank fraud about fifteen years ago, and being told by the Detective Constable that it was too complicated for their local force - but as the sum that had been pinched was less than 100 million, the Serious Fraud Office would not be interested in it either. It's not a good idea to let villains know that while nicking a million or a hundred million will get you arrested, nicking ten million is OK Ross Deva vu all over again! I can recall trying to report a bank fraud about fifteen years ago, and being told by the Detective Constable that it was too complicated for their local force - but as the sum that had been pinched was less than 100 million, the Serious Fraud Office would not be interested in it either.

It’s not a good idea to let villains know that while nicking a million or a hundred million will get you arrested, nicking ten million is OK

Ross

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